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Glenn P
(Warning: This is a long post. If you want the short review read the first & last paragraph)
This is my Glenn P bootcamp (Brad P Underground Dating Seminar) in NYC from this past weekend review. It ran from March7th-March 9th. I actually ended up getting a same night lay for the first time during the bootcamp. Not only that, but it was with an attractive blonde who paid $400 for the room and bought 3 rounds of drinks. Another guy from the bootcamp also got laid with her friend that night. She asked me to bring one along for her friend and I figured who better than a guy who just did 40 approaches that day. It wasn't even something I was thinking about going in since my main goal was just to learn and have successful sets, and I was also staying in the area at my parents house for the weekend. I think the bootcamp with Glenn was pretty amazing and offered me exactly what I need to get better and maybe even become great with a lot of hard work. I would recommend it to anyone looking for a great experience and to up their game quick.
I have been doing pickup for about 2 ½ months now. Sarging Fri & Sat, but recently upped it to Thursday night as well in Philly. I got up to a certain point and then just hit the wall. Getting attraction but then always blowing out.
The only reason I ended up choosing Brad P's Underground Dating Seminar was because it fit into my budget (though as word leaks I am sure the prices will keep rising), it was in NYC, it was during my spring break, and I heard good things about Brad P though I didn't really know anything about his style or him. I never heard of Glenn P at all so I was somewhat reluctant to sign up, but he was supposedly Brad P's best student and the other factors matched up for me so I decided to go with him. After I signed up and told people, I found out that Glenn P had spoken at a Philly Lair meeting a few back before I even knew about the Pick up world, and everyone said he was a really cool guy with a ton of great knowledge of this so it made me feel better. A really cool young guy also coached us over the weekend named Hyper who is really punk rock and an all around good guy.
Something I really liked about this bootcamp was that basically almost all of the class time was used on things that you had to be physically present working with the coaches on. They sent 12 cds prior to the bootcamp with brad p on it that basically went over theory, so time does not have to be used on seminar type stuff that you don't need a real life coach for. The things we focused on the first night were vocals, walking, posture, body language, delivering openers & stories ect. and they critiqued us until we got it right.
We went out at 10 the first night, and Glenn & Hyper's coaching was helpful on the spot so I could see my mistakes right there and begin putting together the puzzle of what was wrong. At the end of the night Glenn told me he thought he had me figured out and that the next day he would give me his conclusion about my game and suggest changes I make. I would go into each set but it would take forever and most of my sets that night hooked and blew out like usual so it was not all that significant though the stuff we worked on earlier in the night really helped and I saw improvements in each set as the night went on and they gave me guidance as to what I was doing wrong.
The next day it was 3 more hours of class time all related to things we actually had to be there for. Glenn did a great job of really evaluating my game and diagnosing my problems, which were that I don't get the girl to contribute, don't flow into enough normal conversations outside of routines, neg and go cocky funny a lot after the girl is already attracted, and don't show enough interest or qualify properly. They have some unique takes and methods on showing interest, qualifying, and getting the girl to contribute more that I did not come across anywhere else in all the systems I read. If they did then they didn't translate to me in this way. The thing about receiving this feedback was that it was like a light bulb switch went off in my head and I could see how these issues were messing up my game but understanding what your problems are is ½ the battle. Its not easy to just go out there and automatically master your issues.
Throughout the day we stayed in field for most of the time running day game. I opened everything from a pure 10 to 8s. They told us we had to do a minimum of 20 approaches or we couldn't go home. I must have done 30+, and one guy was told to do 20 in 60 minutes to help him with his approach anxiety. I got better and better with each set and Glenn & Hyper kept working to reinforce my problem areas. As the day went on my sets got longer and I was able to turn them into more natural conversations. I ended up # closing a girl at virgin records who was an 8 and took it as a victory.
After the # close we went back over to the shoe store to meet up with Glenn before we went to the bookstore to do some exercises. He was standing outside looking through the glass and spotted a blonde who was attractive and seemed to have a great rack though they were covered pretty well. (I later found out that night they were pretty much perfect). I had some anxiety and told Glenn she was probably opened a bunch of times already with the same lines I had. He told me it didn't matter and to just go get her number and he gave me specific instructions going in. One being to run no more than 1 routine after the opener among other instructions to address my problem areas. I went in and just killed it. Had an awesome set, she was into me big time and this time I held the interest and was flirtatious but not cocky, and showed interest at the right times. It lasted over 20 minutes and it turned out she was staying out here for the weekend from Cali. When she was qualifying she told me she had a big time job with a tech company out there (which I will keep anonymous) that got bought out and she was basically loaded already in her late 20's. I time bridged to for a date the next day and we agreed though I said I had to check my schedule to confirm.
We then all left and went to the bookstore and did some exercises. By this time everyone had a great bond going on and we were all having a blast. It was kind of depressing because it was getting late and we knew that our time sarging together like that was more than ½ over. Throughout this time Glenn was helping me with my text message game between the girl I met at the shoes store and I decided I wanted to meet up with her that night.
After sarging some more most of the guys were burnt out and went home, but me and two other guys wanted to go run night game at some of the bars and I had time to kill before I was suppose to head over to the hotel bar at 11:30. I was really interested in seeing how I would perform with no coaches around. We headed over to a bar and I ended up blowing out 3 times which I was totally bummed about. On my fourth approach I ended up approaching a pure 9 who was waiting for the bathroom and absolutely destroyed it. I ran it exactly the way they taught me. It was a lot easier though because me and this girl had a chemistry that was electric. I only ran 1 routine on her and everything else flowed naturally though I made sure to get her to qualify more and I had a lot of kino going. I never saw a girl flip her hair back so much, it seemed compulsive. She flipped her hair back every 10 seconds. This girl was the perfect girl to me, I swear I would have made her my girlfriend if we lived in the same town. With her constantly giving IOs I went in for a makeout and it was so cute because it was amazing for about 20 seconds and then she pulled away because she said her friends were coming. It made me like her more. She asked me if I was going to hang out there all night and I told her I had a party to go to later on and I would call her and she agreed and gave me her number. I didn't know what to say at that point. I had the best connection with this girl as I have ever had with a girl within the first 20 minutes that I can remember but I don't need a girlfriend in NY and I knew that my best bet was the blonde at the hotel who I was also into. I then headed over to the hotel and landed the samenight I mentioned before.
The end result of that was an amazing night with this girl who ended up paying for everything. I brought a guy from the bootcamp to take care of her friend who was a California party girl and he spent the night with her also and did a great job winging me. This whole event is a separate lay report onto itself and would probably double the size of this bootcamp review so I will have to make that separate but there is no doubt being in the right state and learning what was wrong with my game led me to this result. I never had a samenight lay in my entire life and I know only a few guys who had with girls who were actually sober.
The next morning I felt like absolute sh*t physically. Me and this girl screwed 3 times and only slept for about 4 hours. The 3rd day of the bootcamp was an extra day I decided to do and it was all class time. We worked on repoire building exercises, some other exercises, and final advice. To be honest I was totally out of it all day. I was so tired I could not even sit in the chair for a lot of it I was just laying on the floor. We ended at 5 and it was really depressing because I had more of an experience than I ever bargained for and I felt really connected to these guys by the end.
I sacrificed going away for spring break so I could do this bootcamp and the 1 night with this girl was probably more fun than I would have had anyway with the way my game was messed up. I also felt like I put myself on the right track and now know where I was going wrong though it will take a ton of work to become a truly great pick-up-artist who can constantly get samenights and pull 10's though I believe I can one day. I could not recommend Glenn enough. I just had the feeling like I had the opportunity to take a class with a guy who is going to be a total star in the community. He not only is a master at what he does, but he is an awesome guy to spend time with and he genuinely cares about helping people. Usually guys this cool are just flat out assholes, but he is a really nice guy and you can just tell he is not faking that because he is the instructor. The thing I liked the most was that he tries to work with what you need rather than just simply trying to jam something on you to learn that might not be right for you. Now comes the hard part for me continuing to go out and pound the pavement. I am always looking to meet more wings and people in the community. If anyone is in the Philly area give me a shout out
Review of Glenn's presentation to a NYC based men's group in April 2008.
yeah I was there, I showed up late cause of I had class... and the place was packed!! After the seminar I got to talk to two people from this lair (I forgot their names! lolz sorry)... but I heard there were even more people from this lair that showed up. One thing I noticed about the vibe of the people is that they are much more chill and friendly than other lairs/ pua meetings I've been too. There were really no egos and people asked questions openly. Glenn too made it real easy for people just to ask what they wanted and then he would give them a straight honest answer based on his experience.
When I got there Glenn was talking about fashion/ and body language and presence. And how important it is... at one point he got 3 guys to stand up and he kinda told who of them would get more attention during night game based on what they were wearing and he compared what they were wearing to what he was wearing... it seemed like it was really a shared experience. It was by no means a "performace" of precanned stuff...
I learned a lot just from the last minutes. And after the talk he didn't get a dime out of anyone.
One thing he said during the talk was that the fastest way to improve your game is to get coaching from someone who is good... no matter what method or co. you chose as long as they have a reputation for delivering... he said that coaching helps because if the coach is good he can spot the little tiny mistakes that make a huge different in your game. Such as using too much hands when you talk, talking too softly...etc...
But I there are people in this lair that were there for the whole thing... so I am also pretty curious to hear what they have to say...
ps: another thing I want to add is... these meetings def bring the lair together... it's a great to meet the people behind the avatar and make sarging buddies/ wings.
From the very popular ThunderCat Seduction blog:
J wrote:
Glenn P is the best new PUA. I don't think he's new in terms of the community, but for blowing up this year…it's got to be him since Brad's company just blew up too. He's Brad P's coach out here in NYC. He's made a name for himself based on his reputation…he rarely post on the boards if ever…he's been idle and only works with Brad's 30/30 members now. Each of his workshops sell out and his reviews are great. I've worked with him and he pretty much runs the workshop for 6-8 guys with assistant coaches helping along the way.
Why do I think he's so good? Well his postings are all value add. He replied to people's post. I've actually used his eye contact post http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62542-eye-contact-2.html
Every guy that gets into the community is scared of the hottest girls - he has a post on that too! http://www.theattractionforums.com/discussion/62249-pua-advice-needed-hb6s-7s-10s-how-move-up.html
He has a bunch of podcast on ApproachAnxiety and audio field reports of him in action from opening, to flirting, to closing. I could put them here but you need to dig and look this guy up cause he's the real deal.
His workshops consistently help guys get laid or push them far beyond their limits. He's a very spiritual guy and has a successful career…he's definitely doing this for the self-help aspect of it for the guys out there. Glenn was once like us. But he's worked hard and has even contributed to LoveSystems Routine's Manual coming up with some new stuff.
Also, he does lair lectures. I hear lots of guys get something out of them. You can see his reviews: http://www.nycsargeteam.com/showthread.php?t=277&highlight=glennp
If he's not the best new PUA, he's definitely on his way to the rankings if he keeps his eyes on the prize…but I don't think he really even cares…
Pual of Vibe Society
Paul is a free spirit from Oregon. He enjoys acting in New York City and is always looking for new adventures, whether it be through his work as an actor, taking on transvestite roles or being in front of millions on reality TV. He also helps Vibe Society train its students to become men that women love to have and has been doing so for over the past 3 years.
With a 150 IQ, Paul is a master at quick-witted and playful banter. He is a prankster, and a goofball who is best known for his ability to be totally in the moment. Often, the direction he takes surprises even himself and women will either love him or hate him. But it's all from a positive place at heart.
Paul is currently a master instructor for Vibe Society, teaching our NEW 6 Week Challenge programs.
His video introduction to the original 12 Week Challenge can be found here:
http://www.vibesociety.com/coach
Christian Hudson & Nick Sparks
http://www.thesocialman.com/about/christian-hudson
"Christian: the level at which you frame control and AMOG is beyond anything I have ever seen. Not just in the perspective of gaming but in all aspects of your personal and professional life. You're a seriously deep thinker, sharp, and a real leader." - Calvin, New York
http://www.thesocialman.com/about/nick-sparks
"It was truly a surreal experience the way Nick Sparks was effortlessly able to start a conversation with an attractive girl on the street, and get her laughing and smiling immediately. I almost didn't believe what I was seeing right before my eyes, but after he instructed us and we got the exact same reactions, I became a believer. I can now go up to any girl I see whether I'm in a bar or walking down the street and get her laughing immediately. Just one week after the bootcamp my friends and family kept coming up to me after seeing the reactions I was getting from girls (attractive ones) and were like 'what did you say to that girl?' I really couldn't recommend this bootcamp enough, and it really exceeded my expectations in every possible way. And on top of that Nick is an extremely chill guy with a good sense of humor and you can tell he truly loves what he does."
Justin, Los Angeles
Big Will
"It becomes blatantly obvious once you see it happening in front of you."
So the time came to talk to more girls and I talked to a couple more, things were going okay until finally I came upon a girl at a salsa club. She was waiting for someone and after a minute or so, we started talking about her childhood and in another minute, she gave me her phone number. 8 months with the other systems had render little results. One day with this and I number closed with it.
So after talking to a few more girls we called it a night. Will was tired, I was bushed and our couple of days were coming to a close. We came back and reviewed for a bit and I was really pumped. I was glad to finally have a real simple system in my hands. It was nice to actually be able to relax and not have to open 40 sets a week just to get somewhere. Will told me we would talk more and I was glad to hear it.
I know there's so much more that I need to learn, but for now, I feel like I've really got the start of a system that is for real. I feel like it's just a normal way of dealing with women. Seeing ones who look at you and going over and getting to know them. That's awesome. Will saved me years of frustration as well trial and error He was right there with me every step of the way and gave it to me the way it was no holds barred like only an expert could. - Andrew, 24, Pennsylvania
On you tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OntZ564VUzM
Julian Foxx
Make no mistake, Julian Foxx is the Mike Tyson of Pickup.
"Before I was introduced to Julian Foxx I had attended several bootcamps with some very well known pickup 'Guru's.' They seemed exciting at the time and I felt like I was learning useful information, but when it came down to it, I didn't notice any improvement in terms of my success with women… I was pretty jaded after that, but a friend convinced me to study with Julian and I was absolutely blown away. Not just by his ridiculous pickup skills, but by the absolute brilliance of his ideas. And most importantly I almost immediately started to notice a difference with the ladies, which is ultimately the bottom line. Make no mistake, Julian Foxx is the Mike Tyson of Pickup.” - Anthony Heinl, Rome, Italy
"I have had the honor to work with many experts in this industry. What I love and respect about Julian is his ability to teach and share info in a way that makes sense and is "normal" when you're ready for significant change and improvement, you're ready to work with Julian." - P.B. NYC
"I used to think of myself as a ladies man. I was very comfortable with women and most of them didn't have a problem sleeping with me on a first date. As time went on and I grew older, I began to lose my edge and women started responding differently towards me. Eventually I lost my confidence completely and soon found myself struggling just to find a date for the weekend.
After studying with Julian Foxx, I began to master a totally unique seduction formula which not only put me back on track, but gave me the tools necessary to never lose my confidence again.
As I continue to follow his genius spin on pick-up artistry, I grow more and more confident that he has the brightest mind in the dating world." - Steve Patterson, La Jolla, CA
"Simply put Julian takes the meaning of the word 'pickup' to a whole new level. I can personally attest to the fact that the unique techniques Julian has developed can make any man (regardless of his looks or financial situation) become truly successful with women. Thank you for helping me to realize and achieve my potential!" - SOULCHARMER . (T.C)
"Julian is an amazing coach, and it comes from him being so much in the field. He has experimented for years with what works and what doesn't in the dating world. He can tell you in few words what you can improve and that counts for a lot. His 'No Flakes' product is the cutting edge of pick up." - Art Malov, New York Dating Coach
Thanks to Julian for being so Groundbreaking, Inspirational, and quite honestly one of the best 'Pickup Artists' who has ever lived. - Acknowledgment for Julian Foxx in Vin DiCarlo's 'The Attraction Code'
Debonaire Dave
Debonair Dave focuses his time and energy on the intersection of pulling beautiful women and growing global businesses.
In the world of women and pick up "Debonair" Dave has been maintaining an average of 4-5 multiple long-term low-drama relationships with foxy women or the past 7 years. He's been featured on several national and nternational network television shows pulling women, shagging women,maintaining women, and discussing relationships.
To his knowledge "Debonair" Dave is the only guy in the Mens Group Community that has gotten laid in prime time on national network television seen by over 40 million people. Other "Debonair" Dave highlights include shagging 5 women in 1 week, 11 number closes in 1 night, 3-somes with models, and over 500 posts on NYC specific lair groups.
In the world of business, "Debonair" Dave owns and manages 5 businesses. They include an emerging markets consulting firm, an emerging markets investment firm, a digital publishing company, an alternative energy hedge product firm, and an innovation company. He has worked across 40 countries and generated average value for clients in the tens of millions of dollars.
"Debonair" Dave no longer offers any seduction products or services to the Mens Group Community. Instead he writes posts at the most active 100% non-commercial NYC-focused Mens Group Community forum at www.nycsargeteam.com (join it!) and speaks upon invitation to deepen his own learning.
"Debonair" Dave is looking to meet new cool, natural, successful guys that can help provide connections to further both his businesses and his pursuit of incredibly beautiful, intelligent, and sexy women.
Picky Picasso of NewYorkDatingCoach.com
Picky Picasso is amazing at harnessing natural energy and exuding charisma. He is a coach with New York Dating Coach .com
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